Lens Comparison: SIGMA Classic Cine Primes vs SIGMA Cine Primes

In this article, I will take another look at the SIGMA Cine Classic prime set. I bought a full set of Classics back in December and finally they have arrived. When the Classics were first launched, there were only two lenses available, the 35mm and 50mm, which I tested at the time. I have now had a chance to look at all the lenses available in the set. The set includes 14mm T3.2 (F1.8), 20mm T2.5 (F1.4), 24mm T2.5 (T1.4), 28mm T2.5 (T1.4), 35mm T2.5 (F1.4), 40mm T2.5 (F1.4), 50mm T2.5 (F1.4), 85mm T2.5 (F1.4), 105mm T2.5 (F1.4) & 135mm T3.2 (F1.8).

What’s different than what I initially saw?

With no solid answers from SIGMA, they seem to have adjusted and finalized the front and back coatings a bit. The images are slightly less reactive to stray light than the two lenses I initially tested. This is actually a good thing. They have a more pleasing, clearer and defined flare now. This doesn’t mean that they have lost any of the wild magic the original two lenses I tested have, they simply are a bit easier to control. I also finally got to see the new housings and markings. The physical build is nearly identical to the standard Cine primes. They still have the same milled aluminum housings and stainless steel PL mount, but to differentiate the different product lines, there is now a stainless steel band on the back. The addition of Cooke /i technology is a welcome addition. The SIGMA Cine Classics will transmit data to any camera that takes /i metadata protocol.

There is also a new “Classic” insignia that is hand painted on the lens barrel with a technique called Aizu-Nuri. It’s the centuries old traditional Japanese lacquer technique that’s native to Aizu, Japan, the home of SIGMA. SIGMA made a limited run of the Classics, only 30 sets worldwide. As opposed to just stamping a label on, SIGMA decided to use local artisans to apply the logo with a special gold lacquer. It’s a small detail, but goes to show the “family” business nature of SIGMA. They included some of their region’s cultural heritage in the creation of their lenses. I like that.   

The last difference between the standard Cine primes, is the iris markings. The T-stop markings are different to reflect the new light transmission ratings, or T-stop of the lens. The lack of all internal coatings, reduces the glass’ ability to allow light to pass through.  There is about 4% loss of the light per surface between glass and air. That 4%, is then reflected back and scattered, causing flares. It does, however reduce the amount of light that’s transmitted to the sensor.  The optics are still F1.4 (F1.8 for the 14mm and 135mm), but their T-stops, the transmissive rating is lower as a result. What is interesting is that a standard SIGMA Cine @T1.4 will have identical depth of field as a SIGMA Classic at T2.5 as the apertures and optics are the same.

I made a few videos to demonstrate their look, and effects. The first video is a simple lens test directly comparing the SIGMA Cine primes and the SIGMA Cine Classics. I shot on Lumix S1H Full frame 4K @ AVC-All-i 400mbps in 10bit 422 recording. The camera was set at ISO320 to remove any noise from the signal, and reproduce the lenses image quality with more fidelity.

There was a base ambiance from sunlight of T2.8 1/2 @ ISO320, and we keyed with a LitePanels Gemini. There was a bounce card on the ground returning some of the skylight back to our model Jennie’s face. The back light that was used to directly flare the lens was a LitePanels Sola 6 in daylight 5600K color temperature. The hand held light for a central flare was a Litra Pro LED. The RGBWW light used for the color flare test video, was a Litra Studio LED. The key was at T4.0, and the back light was 1/2 stop over key.

The first video is a more direct comparison designed to show you exactly what the differences are. I used the stock Panasonic Vlog to 709 LUT, and did not adjust the footage for exposure. The lighting was the same and the lenses were both set to T4.0. This is to show how the contrast, flares, and over all luminance changes between the coated vs uncoated lenses. Pay attention to the black levels, and over all color rendition. I found the Classics to be obviously lower contrast, but more interestingly, much warmer. The consistency of color was relatively stable between focal lengths on the Classics, and of course rock solid between the standard Cines. It seemed from the results that the edge-to-edge sharpness is pretty good on the Classics. They also match in terms of sharpness to their coated brethren. The general run of the test (however informal) is that the lens begins flared, by the back light as it racks into focus from the slate. The back light is turned off, to show off the natural contrast. Then Jennie, turns on a hand held light to show the effects of a center of frame flare, moves it around, then blocks it from the lens to more dramatically show what it is doing to the image. Then the focus racks to the background, then fully to minimum focus to show bokeh quality and any artifacts from the lack of coatings in the bokeh. Remember to look for the visually shallower depth of field. Despite the same T-stop between both lenses for exposure, the Classics are effectively a stop and a half more “open” optically. So the depth of field is shallower.

In this second video, it is essentially the same video as above, just that the shots are graded. The SIGMA Cine shots have a small amount of contrast applied. The Classics shots have quite a bit more, to help the shadow areas reach black, and give you a sense of what the lenses may look like with regards to a finished grade, as compared to shooting on the standard Cines. It’s more or less to give you a sense despite the lower initial contrast what a final product may look like. The same Panasonic Vlog to 709 Lut is applied, with a bit more contrast applied in a separate node in Resolve using the Lift, Gamma, Gain wheels.

This final video shows off one of the more interesting effects of the lack of coatings. The flares. The Classics have an interesting byproduct. Unlike vintage lenses that actually have coatings on each element, albeit simpler coatings, the Classics have no coatings at all aside from the very front and very back elements. Coatings add a distinct color to their flares. Different coating compositions can cause different colors. The Classics, as there is no coating, the flare is “White”, that is to say it takes on the colors of the source creating it. This gives you some interesting creative options. If you control the lighting in the frame to produce no flares, you can use a colored RGB led point source, or a hard light with gel to create a flare that has any color you like. This is not to say that other lens won’t produce flare based on the color of a source, but that color will be mixed in with its native color. This gives you great control. If you are shooting a commercial for example, and the company colors are a specific shade of pink or purple or red or blue… you can dial that number into a RGB light or make a gel pack to create that color exactly, and create lens flares that matches the source’s color. See below for some demonstrations. We did not have a fresnel light that was RGB, or any gel to color a point source so we used for demonstrations sake, a small RGB panel to induce flares. It also includes some shots in daylight, with sun flares and heavy back lighting to give you a sense of how they look when provoked.

These lenses are not necessarily a set you would shoot everything on. Nor are they meant to be. They are, like traditional “vintage” lenses used for their specific look and characteristics. I use them on music videos, dance films and dreamy ethereal commercial projects. Some times its even nice to use them just for specific shots, sequences or portions of a project. They also work wonderfully for taking still photos too. I use a PL adapter for my S1H, and take portraits and experimental images. The classics remind me of my 1908 Wollensak Cine-Velostigmat 35mm F4.0, in that you get a pleasant surprise whenever you point it at a new subject. I personally love how incredibly reactive the wide angle lenses are in the classic set. I could see them creating some amazing effects in a nightclub setting for music videos. They could also be very interesting for shooting automotive, as the headlights will create explosions of light and color. Flickering sources, or something like the sun shafts between the slats in a pier or train trestle, while moving the camera would be like fireworks. There is a lot of creative potential. With the strong flares on the sensor side of the camera, and immense control we get with our images these days with RAW capture and post color, there is a lot that can be done to bring the image somewhere new.

All in all, they offer a specific, very charismatic look. Warm, hazy, flares like a champion. There are no other lenses available that I know of that are this reactive to light.  While they are named Classic, they truly are something new.

One Year with Sigma Cine Pro, Timur Civan

2019 has brought many changes and new developments for the Sigma Corporation of America. Working with Cine Pro, Timur in the past year has been an exciting and collaborative time. What drew us to our partnership was not only his professional experience, but technical aptitude and fresh ideas of how best to work with Sigma. Timur has been a strong creative force within our team and we have enjoyed watching his vision come to life with Sigma! We are happy to have him join us as we look to 2020 with all that Sigma has to offer!

Working with Sigma Cine Lenses:

Our first meeting with Timur was after some test footage of the Cine primes. He pushed the lenses to their limit and was able to produce some truly spectacular images.

We quickly realized this was a relationship worth curating and once Timur had officially joined our team he got to work creating original pieces to demonstrate the capabilities of our products:

On one of his most recent projects, Timur filmed a graceful dancer juxtaposed against a vibrant horizon. He utilized the 40mm cine prime on an A7R2 in super 35 and full frame mode. With both modes he was able to turn the 40mm essentially into two lenses.

Supporting All Aspects of Sigma:

In February we were honored to have him join us at the ASC awards as we celebrated the art of Cinematography and 100 years of the ASC.

At NAB 2019, Timur spoke at our booth and lectured on some of his pro tips for commercial cinematography and we were able to see some of his recent work.

His presentation made it’s way to our blog and is a great read for those looking to up their game!

See the video below and click here to read the article.

Sigma Classic Art Primes

This past summer Timur was tasked with creating some of the earliest images with the new Sigma Classic Art Primes which took the internet by storm after their announcement in July. You can see his piece “Operator” below, and read about his experience and take on the lenses here.

In our second year with Timur we are looking forward to many more collaborations and opportunities to push boundaries and test the capabilities of the Sigma Cine lenses.

Make sure to follow Timur Civan to keep up with any future projects! You can check out his website at www.timurcivan.com or follow his Instagram @timurcivan

“Operator” Short Film with the New Sigma Classics

Operator is a short film shot in Los Angeles, CA by Sigma America Cine Pro, Timur Civan, Directed by Bhavani Lee. A woman moves through an embellished house while she stoically waits to be connected.

The piece was shot with the SIGMA Classic Art Primes Prototype on the RED Monstro camera. D.P. Timur Civan described working with the lenses:

“They are designed to create a visually striking, sensual image. The same power the standard Cine Prime set had creating optical perfection, the Classic Art Primes have creating an enigmatic and boisterous image. A surprise awaits around every photon.”

More information regarding the Sigma Classics will be released this fall so stay tuned!

Commercial Lighting with Cine Pro, Timur Civan

Sigma Cine Pro, Timur Civan, takes us few his lighting set up on some recent commercial spots.

This will be an in-depth lighting breakdown for an LG OLED Commercial shot last year, 2018. This was a studio shoot, in a very small space. The director of this project was simultaneously working on the stills campaign for the same product. Needless to say, this created some challenges. Not least of which was the fact that the room had almost no grid, except for a single truss at the far-left wall.

In order to achieve this look, considering the space constraints, we chose to shoot the commercial using a Motorized Precision Kira Robot arm. The Kira provides repeatable and controlled movements that were completely smooth. However, our camera movements were limited to the reach of the arm. 

The product is a 65” TV, which in a small studio space doesn’t leave much room to move. In order to feel a camera movement and/or see the entire product, we shot on a Sigma Cine 14mm T2 prime lens for any shot where we needed to see the entire TV. 

We lined the right side of the frame with a 12×12 half grid and put our more powerful lights further from the wall and cascaded the size of the units toward the wall, allowing the fall off to do the work in regard to evenness of the white background. 

The light slashes were done with simple lekos, one on the grid and one parked on a stand. We had a 2k tungsten shooting straight down, riding on a jib, hanging out over the robot to give me the ability to quickly have an overhead key.

This shot was one of the dark looks for the LG OLED spot. We took the camera off the Kira arm and mounted it on a JIB with a remote head. The slashed of light were simply two lekos on swivels, with two very coordinated lighting technicians operating them.

The Sigma Cine 14mm T2 was used to see as much of the product as possible with a low ceiling. The small flourishes of light happened naturally as the product has a large glass face and nearly mirror polished body. I love this shot.

This is another look using the Kira arm and the Sigma Cine 14mm. We used a Jib as a moving key light in combination with some motion control on the robot. I love this shot because it’s a mixture of the absolute mechanical perfection of the camera movement on the arm, mixed with the human touch of a light being manually operated on a Jib.

  • Directed by: Sam Kaplan (@samkaplanstudio)
  • DP: Timur Civan (@timurcivan)
  • Gaffer: Andrew Tank Rivara (@tank_lights_you_up) & Gary Wilkins Jr. (@justgafferthings)
  • AC: Jason Knoblock (@jay_knobs)

Next up is a spot for Tom Ford. This piece had very specific technical requirements. In order to ensure the entirety of the set and product were in sharp focus, a maximum amount of depth of field was necessary 

This was shot on the RED Helium sensor, but at a 4K HD crop out of the 8k sensor at ISO250. This gave me two benefits. First, we were able to stay at nearly a super 16mm sized area of the sensor. Second, the depth of focus benefits really helped me keep the whole subject in focus. We shot on the Sigma Cine 50mm at T16.

The director, Mitchell Feinberg, wanted a dancing, sensuous light. We used a Stella LED light and bounced it into a piece of silver mylar which was hand manipulated. We were able the focus the beam into ribbons of light that were intense enough to register at T16/ISO250, and had the energetic movement of a hand held unit.

Regarding the color, we shot it all in gold and the rose color was graded later. The intent was to really capture the sheen.

Ultimately the product shot of the campaign was the packaging. It was suspended above a pool of gold paint. I used a Quasar light with tow 4’x1’ black foam bore pieces to just kiss the top of the box and help separate the tones from the backdrop. 

The gradient was created by feathering a 2k open face Par with a black wrap cutter very close to the source, then feathered even further with a double to make the soft edge on the P95 background. P95 is a kind of white semi translucent plexi. The key is using the same LED bouncing into a rigged piece of silver mylar. Shot again at a deep stop to ensure focus across the whole product. We used the Sigma Cine 85mm T1.5 with the 4kHD patch of a RED Helium sensor to get more depth of field. 

Shellac NYC cut and graded this, taking the gold colors of the paint and set pieces, making them take on the cherry color while keeping the metallic gold look. The box however was the cherry color.

  • Directed by: Mitchell Feinberg @mitch.fr
  • DP: Timur Civan @timurcivan
  • Art Direction: Megan Caponetto @setgoddess
  • Gaffer: Evan Wood @woodyoulookatthat
  • Post House: Shellac NYC @shellacnyc
  • Editor & Colorist: Max Nova
  • Makeup: Anastasia Durasova @adurasova

A Conversation with Timur Civan, the First Sigma Cine Pro

We sat down with Timur Civan, Sigma Corporation of America’s first Cine Pro, to learn more about his career, what inspires him and what things he’s looking forward to working with Sigma.

 

Born and raised in New York City, Timur Civan has always seen the world through the eyes of an artist. He began pursuing his creative passion as a contemporary sculptor, incorporating video images into some of his works and exploring a variety of innovative art forms, including photography. Becoming a Director of Photography was therefore a natural progression.
After much experimentation with moving images during his brief professional art career, Civan came to the realization that painting an image with light to tell a story was the medium that best expressed his artistic vision. His techniques in cinematography are at the cutting edge of creative imaging, bolstered by his explorations with new and classic lenses, innovative lighting styles, and a deep dive into the latest technologies. Given his naturally inquisitive nature, fascination with science, and acute artistic sensibilities, he is drawn to technically complex commercial and experimental shooting assignments and is highly adept at in-camera special effects, high speed, tabletop, motion control, and macro work.
Sigma: How long have you been working as a cinematographer?

Timur: 12 amazing years.

What inspired you to pursue a career in cinematography?

I was initially a working sculptor.   Through some very fortunate and somewhat unusual circumstances, I wound up somehow the “DP” of a commercial project I had no business shooting.   I had never been on a professional set before, and I got through the day because of the kindness of the gaffer and director, who thought it better, to just help the severely green kid get through the day, than to try to find a replacement.  By the end of the day, I was asked back the next week for a different project.  As I learned and trained under other DP’s, along the way, I developed an affinity for the challenging balance of creativity, practicality, problem solving and leadership.  After a year or two, I stopped making art, and pursued cinematography full time.
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